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Subject: Fleet Challenge 6-23-08: Last "Mini" Standing!   PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:01 pm Reply with quote

Okay so here goes nothing on my first fleet challenge. Confused

This one is going to stick with the olympic theme.(since it is getting close, and I love the olympics) of using a single nation for both ships and crew. all nations are allowed including the single set nations. The style of the challenge is a battle royale, but the twist is that only One and Two mast ships may be used from the respective nations. the point value for this challenge will be forty, (40) points.

The restrictions are as follows:
-no steroids(i.e. no equipments, not even single use.)
-no treasure(there is no use finding gold when battling for your life.)
-no mercy(i.e. no use of the letters of marque or soul mark, because there are not any for the few single set nations.)

some other things that need to be restricted are the use of Firepot specialists(the ships are too small to have to deal with fire) and no point altering or enhancing crew(none for the singles set nations and I feel that these are to much like steroids).

events will be allowed since there are always elemants that must be dealt with while participating in outdoor events. Sea creatures as well since the only ones that can fit into this scenario are Sharks. Any other vessel that floats, dives, or glides over the water is fair game.

Label your fleet Name's "Mini" Fleet.

Any other points or questions should just be addressed in the comments and I will try to help.

Thanks and Good Luck! Very Happy


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Subject:    PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:35 pm Reply with quote

1. Are zero-mast ships (ie flotillas - just a flag, no masts) allowed?

2. Will crew or ships that allow other nationality crew to function on your ship work?

3. Do we need to claim a nation? If so, and if flotillas are allowed, I'd like to claim the English
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Subject:    PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:29 pm Reply with quote

flotillas will be allowed. for all intents and purposes their flag is a mast, but still goes by the flotilla rules.

Only the declared nations crew may use their abilities in the fleet. no other nations crew, even if a crew of your nation allows it, may be in your fleet or brought into your fleet during the course of the game.

and no nation claiming is necessary since there are normally more than one participant from a country in events at the Olympics.
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Subject: Re: Fleet Challenge 6-23-08: Last "Mini" Standing!   PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:15 pm Reply with quote

cabinboy88 wrote:

-no treasure(there is no use finding gold when battling for your life.)


Does that mean no "Limit, Ransom" crews? (And if they are allowed, I promise not to lecture anyone on this point.)

cabinboy88 wrote:

some other things that need to be restricted are the use of Firepot specialists(the ships are too small to have to deal with fire) and no point altering or enhancing crew(none for the singles set nations and I feel that these are to much like steroids).


Does that mean no Black Mark crew as well?
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Subject:    PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:41 pm Reply with quote

the Limit,Ransom crews are not allowed because the few single set nations do not have them.(it has nothing to do with there being any treasure or not.) I just feel that this should be a 40 point game and that's all. i tried a few possibilities myself and the extra five points would have made a huge difference, but the point is for this to be a challege, is it not. And crew with the black mark keyword can not be used, thisis because it is taking a ship and crew that is not of the cursed faction and making them cursed, and per previous rules. all crew and ships must be from a single nation.
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Subject:    PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:47 pm Reply with quote

cabinboy88 wrote:
the Limit,Ransom crews are not allowed because the few single set nations do not have them.(it has nothing to do with there being any treasure or not.) I just feel that this should be a 40 point game and that's all. i tried a few possibilities myself and the extra five points would have made a huge difference, but the point is for this to be a challege, is it not.


Just to clarify, are all 0LR crew disallowed, or only the +5 build point ones?

Another clarification needed: are point reducers (for ship limits) like Jonah and Gaspar Zuan disallowed as well, or just point adders like the Hag of Tortuga?
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Subject:    PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:49 pm Reply with quote

cabinboy88 wrote:
the Limit,Ransom crews are not allowed because the few single set nations do not have them.(it has nothing to do with there being any treasure or not.) I just feel that this should be a 40 point game and that's all. i tried a few possibilities myself and the extra five points would have made a huge difference, but the point is for this to be a challege, is it not.


Just to clarify, are all 0LR crew disallowed, or only the +5 build point ones?

Another clarification needed: are point reducers (for ship limits) like Jonah and Gaspar Zuan disallowed as well, or just point adders like the Hag of Tortuga?
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Subject:    PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:04 pm Reply with quote

i haven't been playing the game for too long, so i did not know that there were other types of ransom crew. After reading them however, i still feel that they should be disallowed. this is because not all nations have access to them and they are pretty much just a free extra crew since their ransom means nothin with out treasure. this in turn is acting like a performance enhancer, which are disallowed in the olypics, so i will have to rule there there are no 0LR crews allowed.
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Subject: Re: Fleet Challenge 6-23-08: Last "Mini" Standing!   PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:21 pm Reply with quote

cabinboy88 wrote:

no point altering or enhancing crew


Gaspar Zuan and Jonah are not Limit, Ransom crew, but they do reduce the point cost of crew placed on a ship in relation to the amount of points of crew a ship can carry. From your quote above, I'm not clear if these should be restricted or not.
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Subject:    PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:35 pm Reply with quote

sorry for not answering thhis question previously. they alter the points of the crew in relation to the ship, so they are not allowed.

if a crew is able to alter point values in anyway, they are not allowed.
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Subject:    PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:35 pm Reply with quote

Sorry, i'm going to miss this challenge and the net 2-3 because i'll be on holiday...same goes for trade offers and PMs...

Happy holidays... Razz

Fede
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Subject:    PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:01 pm Reply with quote

well i've finally decided to join one of these and am curious to see how this goes as i've never thought of doing a game with under 3-4 masts. Smile
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Subject:    PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:34 am Reply with quote

okay, so i guess this wasn't as good of a challenge as i thought, based on the lack of participants. but anyway, there were participants and a winner must be decided.

darrin had a fleet that included a sub and a ship. this combo was well thought out and well crewed too. it had many possibillities on beating another fleet that may have either been all ships, or a ship and a sub as well, but unfortunately his opponent pulled out two flotillas. darrin's main strategy was to ram a ship while his sub was submerged and then to shoot at the ship with the marine. the second ship has two nice cannons on it, eternal, and a reroll. a very sturdy two mast gunship.

milbarber created a fleet with two cancelers, two ships, and two flotillas. this is perfect to fend off darrins sub. his marine can only shoot at a float once, and if he decides to surface the sub to take his shots then he is in range of the floats guns. darrins other ship will also be put at bay by the amount of cannons that can be pointed at him as well.

i wouldn't say that this battle would be one sided, but milbarber would have the upper hand. i feel that it would be easier for him to take control and win a battle more times than darrin could, even though a well performed difficult strategy could enable darrin to win, but it would not be as often as milbarber, so i award darrin second place.

And i award milbarber first place for this week's challenge for the ease of his fleet and sheer power it can dish out, while canceling potential threats. congrats and good luck to everyone on future challenges.
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Subject:    PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:50 am Reply with quote

fossilkarp also had an entry, although somehow it ended up dated June 2, so it is hard to find.

Oh, and Phymatine did, too. Smile
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Subject:    PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:54 pm Reply with quote

sorry to the other entrants for missing their fleets. i have been trying to see all entrants as they came in and didn't see the other two untill i got to work and imediatley went over them and wrote reviews to theirs as well.

darrin had a fleet that included a sub and a ship. this combo was well thought out and well crewed too. it had many possibillities on beating another fleet that may have either been all ships, or a ship and a sub as well, but unfortunately his opponent pulled out two flotillas. darrin's main strategy was to ram a ship while his sub was submerged and then to shoot at the ship with the marine. the second ship has two nice cannons on it, eternal, and a reroll. a very sturdy two mast gunship.

milbarber created a fleet with two cancelers, two ships, and two flotillas. this is perfect to fend off darrins sub. his marine can only shoot at a float once, and if he decides to surface the sub to take his shots then he is in range of the floats guns. darrins other ship will also be put at bay by the amount of cannons that can be pointed at him as well.

fossilkarp brought the cursed to the field with the fallen angel, pestilence, and squalo. however he did not hire any cancelor crew. now the ships will be able to avoid most hits as long as they can stay within S of their opponents, but unfortunately i see this fleet taking on water fast, but they will not go down without first doing some damage of their own.

phymatine entered another sub/ship combo. the uss emerald is a tough sink on its own, but phymatine put an eternal crew on. this ship will be hard work for up to two masted ship since two hits are required to eliminate one mast. as well he has the uss lamon patroling and attacking from beneath the surface with a cancelor crew as well.

i award an honorable mention to fossilkarp. this was his first challenge fleet and it was an entry filled with spirit. it was thought out well, but lacked the necassry cancelors to overtake the subs in the fleet, and the flotillas would strike before the ships got near enough or the ships towing would cancel the effects of the two. a well thought out entry that just needed alittle more work. congrats on your first entry.

i wouldn't say that the rest this battle would be one sided, but milbarber would have the upper hand. i feel that it would be easier for him to take control and win a battle more times than than the others could because of his flotillas' very acceptional guns, even though a well performed, difficult strategy could enable phymatine or darrin to win, but it would not be as often as milbarber, so i award darrin third place.

i award phymatine second because his sub/ship combo is just alittle harder to send to the locker, but is still suseptible to the cancelors against both his ships. his is a step above darrin's fleet, and i award him second place.

And i award milbarber first place for this week's challenge for the ease of his fleet and sheer power it can dish out, while canceling potential threats over and over again. congrats and good luck to everyone on future challenges and great entries by everyone this week.
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