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Fleet "Cheeseland VS The Battleship"

Fleet "Cheeseland VS The Battleship"
60 Points
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This is for the Sink the Battleship! fleet challenge by a7xfanben.

There are two versions of this fleet: the cheesy one and the not cheesy one. I'll first note the not cheesy one here.

quote from Not Cheesy Fleet:
HMS Swallow
The Gentleman
Lawrence of Arabia
Sir Christopher Myngs
Helmsman
Oarsman

I contend that this Not Cheesy Fleet could 1v1 El Acorazado and win, but it's not guaranteed.

On the other hand, Cheesy Fleet *almost* has it guaranteed.

The Cheese is strong with this one. Using all the speed boosters England has for a max speed of S+S+S+S+S+S+S+L+L in two actions allows this strategy: the Drive By.

What is the Drive By?

A7xfanben's setup for El Acorazado has a maximum speed of S+S+S+S in one turn. Since mine is guaranteed >=2x as fast, I can sit out of range, sail up, broadside, then sail out of range.

Eventually, the Swallow will hit, destroying El Acorazado in one crushing blow. The only question is how long such an action will take.

The Bilge will carry Lord Mycron to feed guaranteed Extra Actions to the HMS Swallow. Since the Bilge is a turtle ship, she can't be boarded unless her panels are missing. Since she won't be leaving the home island, that won't be a problem; her mast can be rammed, but she can't lose her panels. As she can be given either a repair or move action while derelict, Mycron always works.

The HMS Pride has built in reroll for her navigator, who will give the HMS Swallow an extra S of movement most of the time. This enhances the drive-by but is not necessary. The oarsmen are entirely fodder in case something bad happens.

The HMS Swallow will be doing the heavy lifting. Griffin and a Helmsman hop aboard to boost her to S+S+S+L base move. Lawrence saves her from the enemy canceller, and the Captain will point the Broadsides Attack at the Spanish.

With a guaranteed extra action and superior mobility, England should win the scenario (given enough broadside attempts).

For extra fun, here's a variant on the not cheesy fleet.
quote from Alternate Not Cheesy Fleet:

San Cristobal
Osvaldo de Deus Celemente
Nemesio Diaz
Capitan Alarico Castro
Helmsman
(No reroller, it doesn't fit within cargo and point restrictions)

 
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Miniatures without Section (1 miniatures)
1 x HMS Swallow HMS Swallow (PofR)
  • Collector's Number: 024
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: R
  • Type: Ship
  • Point Value: 17
  • Cargo Space: 5
  • Base Move: S+L
  • Cannons: 3S-3L-3L-3L-3S
  • Number of Masts: 5
Miniature text:

Broadsides Attack.

The newest warship in the English fleet has been dubbed "The Pirate Hunter" and the Swallow has direct orders to work with Woodes Rogers to clean up the Crimson Coast.

 
Section: Ship #1 (4 miniatures)
1 x Captain Captain (RotF)
  • Collector's Number: 070
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: R
  • Type: Crew
  • Point Value: 3
Miniature text:

Captain

1 x Griffin Griffin (RotF)
  • Collector's Number: 207
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: LE
  • Type: Crew
  • Point Value: 7
Miniature text:

If this ship has a crew with the Captain keyword, she gets +1 to her cannon rolls and +S to her base move.

"Griffin has been said to be English royalty, an illegitimate son sent to die at sea, and a pirate in hiding. Griffin maintains his silence and lets his sword do the talking."

1 x Helmsman Helmsman (RotF)
  • Collector's Number: 077
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: U
  • Type: Crew
  • Point Value: 2
Miniature text:

Helmsman

1 x Lawrence Lawrence (PofBC)
  • Collector's Number: 056
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: R
  • Type: Crew
  • Point Value: 5
Miniature text:

Once per turn, one crew or ship within S of this ship cannot use its ability that turn.

Link: HMS Durham.

After going "native," Ethan Lawrence was stripped of his commission in the Royal Navy. But his very public exploits as "England's Own Corsair," coupled with his rescue of HMS Durham from a Barbary Corsair sneak attack, forced the Crown to give him back his command.

 
Section: Ship #2 (4 miniatures)
1 x HMS Pride HMS Pride (RotF)
  • Collector's Number: 051
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: C
  • Type: Ship
  • Point Value: 10
  • Cargo Space: 3
  • Base Move: L
  • Cannons: 3L-3L-3L
  • Number of Masts: 3
Miniature text:

Once per turn, you can reroll any die roll you make for this ship; you must use the second die roll result.

Each morning the crew of HMS Pride come to attention and salute the raising of the Union Jack. They are convinced this patriotic ritual brings them luck.

1 x Navigator Navigator (SS)
  • Collector's Number: 037
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: C
  • Type: Crew
  • Point Value: 2
Miniature text:

When this ship is given a move action, instead of moving her you may roll a d6. On a result of 3-6, put a trade current within S of any friendly ship.

2 x Oarsman Oarsman (F&S)
  • Collector's Number: 126
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: C
  • Type: Crew
  • Point Value: 1
Miniature text:

Oarsman

 
Section: Ship #3 (2 miniatures)
1 x Bilge Bilge (PatOE)
  • Collector's Number: 214
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: LE
  • Type: Ship
  • Point Value: 6
  • Cargo Space: 3
  • Base Move: L+S
  • Cannons: 2L
  • Number of Masts: 1
Miniature text:

Turtle Ship.

An English crew took the hull of a scuttled ship, put a lid on it, and sailed their new ship proudly into battle.

1 x Lord Mycron Lord Mycron (F&S)
  • Collector's Number: 027
  • Faction Affiliation: England
  • Rarity: R
  • Type: Crew
  • Point Value: 6
Miniature text:

Loyal: England. Instead of giving this ship an action this turn, you can give another ship in your fleet two actions.

As a member of Parliament and an advisor to the Crown, Lord Mycron pushed for the current conflict with England's old rival, France. He hopes to ensure England as the singular force on the seas, and if removing France is part of that process, well, that's just lagniappe.

 
Fleet Statistics
Distribution by Base Move
- bar 73 %  
L bar 9 %  
L+S bar 9 %  
S+L bar 9 %  
 

Distribution by Cargo Space
- bar 73 %  
3 bar 18 %  
5 bar 9 %  
 

Distribution by Faction Affiliation
England bar 11  100 %  
 

Distribution by Number of Masts
- bar 73 %  
1 bar 9 %  
3 bar 9 %  
5 bar 9 %  
 

Distribution by Point Value
1 bar 18 %  
10 bar 9 %  
17 bar 9 %  
2 bar 18 %  
3 bar 9 %  
5 bar 9 %  
6 bar 18 %  
7 bar 9 %  
 

Distribution by Rarity
C bar 36 %  
LE bar 18 %  
R bar 36 %  
U bar 9 %  
 

Distribution by Type
Crew bar 73 %  
Ship bar 27 %  
 



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Subject:    Posted: October 1, 2016 11:50 am

Yeah, this is about as bad as it gets. The game just comes down to one die roll, which is why I've never pitted the Swallow against the Acorazado in 1v1 action - half the time the Swallow would win, half the time she would lose. How exciting.

It's also why I have second thoughts about allowing 60 points instead of 50 or 45 or 42, but this one is still pretty cheap when you consider the Pride setup is just extra. I'm just glad (and surprised) that no one used the RV Constitution - I should have banned that ship for the challenge but luckily nobody used her.

That final "not cheesy" fleet looks just as cheesy as this one - just add the same support and it's basically the same thing.
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Subject:    Posted: October 2, 2016 08:22 pm

This fleet fell to El Acorazado.
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Subject:    Posted: October 2, 2016 10:03 pm


quote from a7xfanben:

This fleet fell to El Acorazado.

Obviously not cheesy enough! Wait until I use submersibles with Broadsides Attack! Muahahahaha!

A7xfanben didn't quite play the fleet as intended, but the inherently risky strategy didn't pay off. El Acorazado is too much of a floating rock for now, but I'll be back!
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Subject:    Posted: October 3, 2016 11:47 am


quote from el_cazador:
A7xfanben didn't quite play the fleet as intended, but the inherently risky strategy didn't pay off. El Acorazado is too much of a floating rock for now, but I'll be back!


The Acorazado's crew knew she had no chance against that HMS Swallow setup, while Volt's fleet looked beatable if I could get the first strike. Hence, hitting volt's fleet with an SAT (which didn't work out in the long run), and sailing away from the Swallow to force her to come close early. The Swallow had to take her shot in order to beat Volt's fleet in terms of the turn count, which was the tiebreaker because I knew it was likely that more than one of the fleets would be able to sink El Acorazado. If the Swallow wasn't so intimidating and "unbeatable" perhaps there would actually be a reason for the Acorazado to meet her in battle.

Besides, counting that first BA (that was undone) roll that turned into a predictable 1, the Swallow missed 3 of 4 broadsides - you can't rely on my terrible dice luck to ever win you a deathmatch!
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